Panoramic Gutter View ~ Voices of an Underclass : Detransitioners

EDIT - This blog was only ever a collection of things I'd seen online. It's now beyond any reasonable doubt that detransition is far more common than previously claimed.

With the leak of WPATH files detailing highly unethical procedures and complete failure of informed consent, the Cass Review, and a growing body of evidence puberty blockers cause long term harm, this is, I hope, a dying mass hysteria.

Detransitioners are the canary in the coal mine, and they are frequently met with suspicion or even hated in much of the trans community:

Fairly typical responses to anything featuring Keira Bell

Marci Bowers talks about anorgasmia in youth treated with puberty blockers (excerpt from longer video)

The Lancet - of 14 young people who were turned down for puberty blockers (reasons include medical, psychological and environmental issues) 11 had, on follow-up, desisted and were glad they hadn't taken them: Puberty blockers for gender dysphoria: the science is far from settled

Parent details their struggle to get a blocker planted in child's arm: It took "an hour of negotiation" "I literally bribed him with money"

Film - Affirmation Generation: The Lies of Transgender Medicine

Prisha Mosely is one detransitioner who particularly infuriates the trans movement

● Twitter thread by Transgender Trend listing new study on desistance and detransition versus the popular narrative:

"*New study*

5 year study shows 94% persistence rate in socially transitioned children.

Compare with around 20% persistence under 'watchful waiting' approach.

"...transgender youth who socially transitioned at early ages continued to identify that way."

From Transition_Justice on Instagram

Gender Identity 5 Years after Social Transition

Micropenis caused by puberty blockers

Poor Jazz Jennings and sex surgery nightmare due to the impact of pubertal blockade on their sexual development. This led to three, major surgeries and a life threatening collapse, and a final revision in 2020. This image is taken before the fourth surgery - there's a lot of scarring

The idea anyone, even a child, might make the wrong decision is taboo. But there are so many...

Susie Green has a good chuckle about her child's sex reassignment surgery (performed in Thailand as a 16th birthday present) being stymied by the lack of scroto-penile tissue due to puberty blockers, used from the onset of puberty, preventing normal development.

? Question to Susan's Place ,Transgender Resource - "I have micro penis XD cause i've been on hormones for 4 years .

"if u want depth most Thai doctors said colon vaginoplasty is my only way, or a scrotal skin graft with more skin from my thigh or anywhere ."

"I wanna know did have any problems after colon vaginoplasty? other than the odor which i think it can be solved" - conversation goes on to sigmoid colon vaginoplasty. It sounds brutal

Sigmoid colon vaginoplasty discussed, Reddit

🦎The "When people do detransition, it is often understood to be a product of discrimination and transphobia in their lives" canard (courtesy of a CNN piece) discussed on r/detrans

● Top trans doctors blow the whistle on 'sloppy' care

Detransitioned woman to sue doctors who removed her uterus during mental health crisis - reddit detrans / Daily Mail

● Why is the progressive world so hostile to detransitioners?

KC Miller, who did a moving Tiktok about being left as a balding, deep-voiced woman at 21, was subject to a wave of abuse. Here's one example (watch it here)

● Transgendertrend - Detransition

'Age is just a number when it comes to neo vagina surgeries'

Detrans woman, @bbeing.rada on Tiktok speaks about how early sexual abuse caused her to seek refuge in a male identity

#KidsAreOperatedOn

● A group of detransitioned women https://post-trans.com/

● The Pique Resilience Project

March 22, 2022 -- People who had transitioned to the opposite gender and later decided to reverse their transition shared about how they felt the medical establishment had failed them in a unique Zoom conference earlier this month

"I detransitioned when I realised it was societies misogyny, not being female, that was causing the disconnect"

What kind of education on the consequences are there, when a man is shocked that having his testicles surgically removed destroys his sex drive?

Maybe the emotional maturity of this former mastectomy patient tells us something:

• Woman who changed her mind about gender transition sues psychiatrist for approving hormones

• 'Don't indulge young people who think they are trans - many are mentally ill' says detrans woman who regrets removing her breasts

The distain for detransitioners:

A transwoman speaks out:

And gets slapped down:

● Why are we so scared to admit many people regret changing their gender?

"Three former patients of Australia's controversial sex-change clinic say misdiagnosis and wrongful surgery destroyed their lives. Jill Stark reports.

HE WILL never forget the noise".

● James Caspian is prevented from studying detransition by university

Dispute over detransition study heads for high court

● Psychotherapist blocked from studying trans regret takes case to the european court

● Story regarding on person's horrifying surgical results with Gallagher, who has also removed the breasts of a 13 year old 'trans boy' - graphic, appalling images within here

● Psychotherapist blocked from studying trans regret takes case to the european court

Leanne Mills "Trans woman says sex change surgery ruined her life"

♡ Portrait of a detransitioner as a young woman

Dr. Sibhdh Gallagher, AKA 'teetus deletus' has made a real impact on tiktok - and increasingly in criminal complaints

Young detransitioner writes to her surgeon:

A detransitioner writes to Abigail Shrier:

Tulip

● Fifty trans people tell therapist of regrets

● Scott Newgent - We need balance when it comes to gender dysphoric kids. I would know

● The detransitioners at The Critic

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Shrinking to Survive - Former trans man reports on life inside queer youth culture

● Double mastectomy at 15 - detrans 16 year old now seeks reversal

● 88% of dysphoric natal boys desist by adulthood

● The detransitioners - what happens when trans men want to be women again

● The ranks of gender detransitioners are growing and we need to understand why

Here is an excellent blog on the ideological capture of talking therapies https://genderexploratory.com/2021/04/30/example-post-3/

Here is an interesting blog on the making of the 'trans child' https://pitt.substack.com/p/how-to-be-a-trans-educated-rational

And the story of how activists tried to crush Lisa Littman's study into Rapid Onset Gender Dysphoria https://web.archive.org/web/20210817101115/https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2019/03/19/trans-activists-fail-block-research-suggesting-gender-dysphoria/

Walt Heyer

This, from Sydney Morning Herald, details the heartbreaking loss suffered by those who regret sex reassignment surgery

"But as the wheels squeaked towards the operating table he was struck by an unshakeable thought: "It's not right." He remembers telling the surgeon: "I think I'm doing the wrong thing, it's not right, I think we've got to stop it."

The surgeon stroked Andrew's face, telling him it was natural to feel frightened before an operation. He protested again, insisting it felt wrong. Then it went black. When he woke up he was sure the surgery had been cancelled. The romantic tales he'd read of transsexuals who awoke post-surgery feeling "reborn" convinced Andrew the operation had been halted, because he felt no different"

This is another of our blogs of the treatment of parents who don't unquestionably affirm -We're your peer support - you are killing your child

Studies:

● Gender dysphoria in adolescence: current perspectives:

"Evidence from the 10 available prospective follow-up studies from childhood to adolescence (reviewed in the study by Ristori and Steensma28) indicates that for ~80% of children who meet the criteria for GDC, the GD recedes with puberty. Instead, many of these adolescents will identify as non-heterosexual"

● Gender reassignment - I'm man enough to admit that it was a mistake

● Sex change sorrow

● Young man has testicles removed and becomes suicidal after only three months of gender clinic sessions

• Ray Blanchard - "Thirty years ago, postoperative transsexuals who regretted surgery were pretty rare. That was under the gatekeeper model, however, when patients had to live as the opposite sex for one or two years before being considered eligible for surgical approval"

● Canadian Journal of Psychiatry Prediction of Regrets in Postoperative Transsexuals speculates that heterosexual transitioners (who would 'become' homosexual with transition) are more likely to regret transition

Reasons for detransition:

Comparison of transition and detransition support:

"A recurrent theme in the answers was a sense amongst respondents that it was very difficult to talk about detransition within LGBT+ spaces and with trans friends. Many expressed a feeling of rejection and loss of support in relation to their decision to detransition, which lead them to step away from LGBT+ groups and communities"

● Transitioning procedures don't help mental health largest dataset shows

● Long-Term Follow-Up of Transsexual Persons Undergoing Sex Reassignment Surgery: Cohort Study in Sweden

"Persons with transsexualism, after sex reassignment, have considerably higher risks for mortality, suicidal behaviour, and psychiatric morbidity than the general population"

To my daughter's therapist - you were wrong

A beautiful essay by the mother of a desisted teen

● Arron Terrel - "On why I don’t think children should ever be physically transitioned.

"I used to think certain cases of childhood GD should be treated with physical transition. I used to wish I had been able to transition as a child. GD was brutal & I never outgrew it"

- Detransitioners -

● mothergender

"I've been having an extremely hard time coping with my dysphoria after being denied coverage for my breast reconstruction. I couldn't even look at my chest today without wanting to cry, its so fucking flat and I know I don't need breasts to be myself but it really hurts. So much"

● Watson - "I can't say what the global experience of being diagnosed with gender dysphoria is. I can, however, tell you what I went through for the diagnosis, and what the subsequent referral for HRT and surgery was like."

● Detrans gay guy speaks on his transition and detransition here

Carey Callahan on her story - "The Game Plan for when Transition Hasn’t Worked Out"

● Top Surgery Regret

Part One: The Post-Surgery Bad Feelings, Expectations Vs. Reality, and Grief

● The detransitioners - they were transgender until they werent The Stranger

● BBC - He2She2He

● I want to be Debbie again - https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/im-still-debbie-man-reveals-13532989 and on Newsnight here

● Carol "Thread 🧵 I was reluctant to start testosterone. And my therapist never explored that or explored alternatives just pushed me in one direction.

When I expressed worry about possible regret over having top surgery she told me regret would be normal but people get over it because transition is truly the right thing for those of us with gender dysphoria.

She then told me a story of a client of hers who had a break down after her top surgery. But she assured me she knew what was up & it would be ok.

God I feel like such an idiot now. So many 🚩 I couldn’t see. It’s amazing what severe depression and suicidal ideation will do to the thought process. I hated myself I wanted to destroy myself. I had fantasies about killing myself in horrible ways since I was 13. None of this was ever talked about in therapy. Because that Would have been transphobic. #detrans #DetransAwareness"

Videos

● Vaishnavi Sundar - Dysphoric

● Detransition awareness day - I'm Watson

● Pique Resilience Project - Detrans Q and A

● GNC Centric - Coercion and abuse within the gender identity community

● Former trans woman Peter Benjamin speaks of post transition regret

● GNC Centric - Tough questions for gender dysphoric people

● Transgender regret - a dutch documentary

● Elle Palmer - Detrans thoughts on trans community

● Graysons Projects - I'm detransitioning. My struggle with gender and self acceptance

● Detransitioners - The growing dark side of trans ideology

● Daisy Chadra - I'm detransitioning